i raised two kids in south tulsa.nd -- i didn't have to worry about my boys being pulled over for no reason. i didn't worry about, you know, the safety of my sons. >> reporter: how bad was the gang problem in tulsa then? >> the gang problem was bad. people were afraid. there were reports regularly about crips and bloods warring. you know? the tulsa police department was trying to deal with a very high violent crime rate, a lotta guns on the street. >> reporter: september 10th, 1994, was just that kind of day in north tulsa. another drive-by shooting. another senseless death. this time, it was 19-year-old karen summers, the mother of a baby boy, who was gunned down at 2:30 in the morning as she was hanging with friends at a party. >> frankly, this kind of case -- while it did involve a tragic loss of life of a young mother who was an innocent victim, it was not highly unusual in tulsa. >> reporter: the murder had all the signs of a gang crime. and lots of crips were at the party. so a day later, tulsa homicide investig

we can't have a repeat from tulsa.e know the president pushed for the tulsa rally, wanted things to get back to normal. the officials say he sees it is not possible and they're lowering expectations by saying they don't expect the president's staunchest supporters to turn out the way they did in 2016 because of the pandemic and because of the pandemic they're considering applying some of these precautions to the republican convention in jacksonville in august. they're looking at now the president was supposed to deliver his keynote address in an indoor space that can seat 15,000 people, now looking at three outdoor alternative options. and they're considering taking other measures and that's because the number of cases in florida has according to our own nbc analysis, since they announced on june 11th they were moving to tulsa, the number of cases in florida has gone up over 500%. there say real need for them to do this, officials caution that no decisions have been made. >> i remember one of the signs that the tulsa t

anyways, let's get to the news president trump held a campaign rally over the weekend in tulsa, oklahomadrew a smaller than expected crowd. yeah, i'll say this doesn't even look like a rally. this looks like the meeting to plan the rally all right, dave, you're in charge of lights and, bob, your team will handle sound. okay, everybody. everybody good let's rehearse the water drinking good job all right. i mean, still looks like a huge effort mentally. but, you know, it's definitely progress during his campaign rally on saturday night, president trump said that he told officials in administration to slow down coronavirus testing because of the rising number of cases so they slowed it down the best way they knew how. by adding a ramp [ laughter ] during his campaign rally in tulsa over the weekend, president trump referred to the coronavirus as the, quote, "kung flu. man, just when you thought he couldn't get any worse -- why did you think that president trump's campaign manager brad parscale yesterday denied reports that anti-trump people in social media were responsible for the lower tha

look at -- look at what happened to his team from tulsa. look what happened to the vice president's team in phoenix. he puts people at risk. and why would you put people at risk? he could have done this meeting today via teleconference. and that's what he should be doing. he should be sitting tight, preserving his people, looking after his people, and managing the crisis from d.c. he should stop traveling. there was no reason for him to go to florida today. >> yeah. all of those people, advance people, who -- who had contracted covid. and the secret service people. so you do have a point there, dr. reiner. susan, i want to bring you in because your latest piece for the new yorker, you point out how the president attempts to flip anything negative into something positive. whether it's losing in the supreme court, handling of the coronavirusment b coronavirus. but you point out how it's not working anymore. it's right on -- susan, i have to tell you. i was watching the president give a speech on some important initiative that he had made. and

it has been 19 days since that tulsa rally.ld incubate, right is it's greater, in fact, than that two-week period some of with regard to that rally. you have the president's campaign team defending that event, but we can't forget that shoichls own staff, i think it was six -- tested positive while working that event. how about rallies moving forward? is there any word on how they're going to handle this as it relates to covid-19? >> you're right. there were six campaign staffers who tested posted even before the rally started. then after the rally, they revealed that two additional staffers also had contracted the virus while being in tulsa. then you have the questions of other top campaign officials and surrogates who were at that rally who later tested posted. it's impossible to say whether they contracted the virus there who were both at that packed rally as well as other events who have now speculated that may be where they, in fact, contracted the virus, but as we look ahead to new hampshire where they'll be rallying on sa

i mean, i say that, of course we saw what happened in tulsa and arizona. but i think at this point, given how much viral spread there is i think the public health communities have been pretty unified in their voice on how risky this is. you can look at one of the riskiest type of events and one of the lowest risk types of events and frankly, anyone paying attention over the last months, this is not a surprise. lowest risk is virtual events and the highest risk event, large indoor events, people coming from outside the local areas because that means they may disperse then to other areas, difficult to practice social distancing. i'll add into that there's no -- there was no clear mask mandates inside these types of events in the past. and people sit next to each other for a while so it's not just the distance, but the duration. you know, people always want to sort of thread the needles on all of these issues, you know, when it comes to events. when it comes to schools, things like that. you know, let me find a loophole where i can get this done. i mean, that

some of the last images of him in public at the president's tulsa rally with no mask. president trump offering words of comfort tonight. >>> we're tracking that tropical storm and now, is there a hurricane brewing for the east? the storm slamming parts of puerto rico. more than 400,000 without power. and now, the new track. could it become a hurricane as it moves up the coast? >>> and the earthquake rattling southern california. they felt it in los angeles. >>> and good evening tonight from atlanta, where amid this pandemic, amid so much worry in this country, the nation paused today to remember. a man who spent most of his life fighting, pushing for equality, for civil rights, for change. three presidents came to honor john lewis, who they say never lost hope in the promise of america. his funeral at the church where he worshipped, ebenezer baptist king jr. was once the pastor er here. john lewis learned from him and then taught others himself, leading by example. among those here to honor him, former presidents george w. bush and bill clinton. and former president ba

there's an uptick in cases in tulsa. now mt. rushmore and there's some very vulnerable members of that community there that are very concerned. i don't even understand what his message is to the people who are prone to or have a history of believing his baloney spin on things. >> well, i mean, the unifying thread, this is a president and the person that cannot face reality when that reality is anything other than aggrandizing and politically convenient and tweeting things like law and order, he tweets a lot and he sounds like someone who isn't actually the president of the united states. he sounds like a bystander. criticizing, whether it's tv hosts, criticizing governors, whether it's his own government, he is always a critic sort of chirping from the sidelines and the other realities, the reality of the actual situation that is -- that the country is facing with the coronavirus felt now really deeply across the south and the sun belt in red states where you start to see republican governors there disavow some of the politics t

even going bare faced at president trump's tulsa rally. his diagnosis, not changing his mind. >> not thinking about a mask mandate at all. >> reporter: in georgia governor brian kemp is banning mask mandates altogether. kemp issuing an executive order overnight that overturns any local laws requiring a face covering in public. it comes amid hot political debate about how the country should approach controlling the virus. >> let's stop this nonsense and figure out how can we get our control over this now. >> reporter: after days of attacks from white house officials, some named, some not, dr. anthony fauci is saying enough is enough calling out trump's top trade adviser peter navarro saying in an op-ed fauci has been wrong about everything i have interacted with him on. >> if you talk to reasonable people in the white house, they realize that was a major mistake on their part because it doesn't do anything but reflect poorly on them. >> reporter: as hospitals in florida overflow with patients, the governor says students will still be allowe

in tulsa in 1921.the president was forced to remove his rally from juneteenth, the day when african-americans in some parts of the country including texas first understood that they had been emancipated. the reason that we've invited a witness from tulsa is not because of necessarily the -- because of what occurred in tulsa which is only now being recognized. it's probably fair to say that in no american community has there been violence by police that equaled what happened in tulsa, a virtual massacre of african-americans which is only now being recognized nationally and that largely because of the george floyd eyewitness killing. the reason that your city is of importance to this discussion is what had been built there before this massacre which occurred after an african-american was accused of killing a white person. mr. lewis, it is where the gl n greenwood section is, the black wall street. i understand there's still a search for the dead going on. nobody was ever charged. the governor has invited

for as much of a failure as the president's rally in tulsa was last month, he did still manage to get about 6,000 people together into an indoor space for that event. it was the most people at any indoor event anywhere in america since the coronavirus crisis began. and if the risk for transmitting the virus there weren't high enough with thousands of mainly older, maskless people shouting at the tops of their lungs, the trump campaign actually decided to ratchet things up a bit for tulsa on purpose. as part of the safety plan for that tulsa rally, the arena had purchased thousands of stickers that said "do not sit here, please." they thought they'd put those stickers on every other seat in the whole arena to try to establish some social distancing between the rally goers. but in the hours before the president got there, his campaign ordered that all of those stickers should be removed, should be taken off every other seat. at the same time the campaign was directing folks to just huddle up, get to know your neighbor's virus, we learned that six advance staffers for that event, includi

in tulsa, oklahoma, tonight the tulsa health director is making national news for announcing another new dramatic surge of new covid cases in tulsa. the city and county health director says president trump's campaign rally in tulsa, which you'll remember was the first large indoor congregant event of any kind in the country for months when it happened last month. the tulsa city and county health director now says that event held by president trump appears to be the likely source of the new surge of the virus in tulsa, oklahoma. so, yeah, it's bad all over. it's at least bad in lots and lots of places. and it is our particular curse as a country that the head of our federal government appears to be personally responsible for making some of it bad himself for the purposes of his campaign. i mean, it's just -- we spend all this energy like thinking oh, this is, you know, we have two competing parties who both have governing philosophies and they compete who has the best ideas to address the nation's challenges. no, we have a president who's causing outbreaks and telling you not to follo

in tulsa and oklahoma we have 211 we want people to call for help. there are rental resources out there to help them, but the tsunami is coming if we don't do something to stop it. >> reporter: people in this community talk about the strength of non-profits, religious groups like yourgs, i spoke to the head of the housing authority yesterday. she said she's grateful for your help and the help of others, but serious policy changes need to be made. what's your sense of the appetite for that here and how what's happening here is going to accelerate those efforts? >> we're honored to be a part of helping people. we've been helping people for over 25 years with rent assistance. what we're doing is sandbagging houses in a flood. what we need is a levee. one group of agencies doesn't build a levee. a community builds a levee. a family builds -- we come together to build these systems to protect those in need. there are people who are about to be faced with a flood. we need to stop that flood. we're happy to be a part of it. we want to help those people, but

the tulsa lesson bore that out. i have to believe that that was a large part of the concern that they were facing for tomorrow night, that they had a room that they couldn't fill. >> tulsa nearly two weeks ago, they had a big arena that seated about 19,000 people and the fire department said 6,000 or so actually showed up. >> right. >> and that was an embarrassment to the trump campaign, although they did have a big viewing audience on fox news which took the event clearly live. all right, guys, thank you very, very much. a very important programming note. be sure to watch smerconish here on cnn tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. i watch it every saturday morning. but here's a very important note. later tomorrow the premiere of michael's new special, "the things i wish i knew before i started talking," that's tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m. eastern, only here on cnn right after our special "situation room" tomorrow night on cnn. >>> just ahead, we'll take a closer look at the coronavirus and race in america, as the p

well, now, a couple of weeks later, tulsa is seeing a record number of cases.ning us now, cnn political correspondent abby phillip. now, health officials in tulsa won't tell us whether or not the cases are coming from people who are at the rally. privacy concerns, and i get that, prevent them from telling us what the contact tracing has told them. but, they all say, the rally was two weeks ago, now we're seeing record cases. >> yeah, they're basically saying, connect the dots. that it's clear that the rally -- and we should be fair, there were a lot of people in tulsa for the rally. there were a lot of people in tulsa for the counterrally that actually only came into existence because the rally was being held there. so all of these different groups of people coming into that city at that particular time, yeah, it's going to end up leading to some kind of transmission. and the only group that seems to be completely uninterested in talking about it or dealing with the consequences of it are the president and his campaign. they continue to schedule events. they co

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oklahoma and tulsa. it is tulsa at a moment when you're looking at structural racism and policing, and the stoplights, are not so much because of what happened, is happening in tulsa now. it happened in 1921 in tulsa. the president was forced to read his rally from june 10th, and a when african-americans. [inaudible]. they first understood they had been emancipated. it is not because of necessarily the value but because of what occurred in tulsa. and now is probably fair to say that in no american communities has had violence by police but that what happened in tulsa, and the massacre virtually of african americans. ... ... and occurred after an african-american was accused of killing aye person. mr. lewis, are you aware, the green would section is located in so-called black wall street. there's a search going on there and no one was ever charged. the government has invited the president and once he comes for this rally the reaction of the african-american community to the rally being held here? in light

you covered that rally in tulsa.e don't know for a fact where he may have contracted that virus but put in context for us his tragic death. >> reporter: herman cain is someone who has been so prominent in the business and political world, over many years, and it is certainly a terrible loss for his family and his staff, and of course it stands out that he has been, was in attendance and photographed at the tulsa rally, which was the last rally the president held and one that was happening in what was at that time a covid hot spot. herman cain was photographed not wearing a mask, sitting in close proximity to others. of course, we don't have an ability to draw a line from that event to his diagnosis. that's just some of the background of what has happened here. he had been hospitalized since early july, and there were periodic updates from his team and there were some signs of hopefulness, but as they reported his passing at age 74 today, they described the fact that they just were not able to get him past that point,

a veteran killed today in tulsa leaves behind a wife and two sons. what happened here?eporter: a traffic stop happened, kate, on monday morning in the early morning hours and sergeant johnson was with another officer who had just started doing patrols for the tulsa police department. you mentioned johnson was a 15-year veteran who pulled over a suspect who somehow the three men got in a scuffle according to police and shots were fired multiple times by the suspect. both of those officers were actually hit in the head and both went to the hospital. both underwent surgery and as of now, of course, we know johnson passed away and the other officer, hearing he's actually responding to doctors and there is hope for him, but the police chief, you know, kate talking about how they are people, too. wearing uniforms. different jobs saying you need to remember we're people, too, talking about the fact so much tension between the community and police and a devastating outcome for the police department there in tulsa. there is a memorial being set up around tulsa police car that's

tulsa world, go ahead. >> what time of day did you get your test results back? gov. stitt: i got my results back at around 12:30 yesterday. >> thank you. >> governor, i know you said there was contact tracing going on to determine when you were infected. any thought that it may have occurred during the presidential rally in tulsa, which was almost a month ago now, i realize? as i recall, you did not wear a mask at that rally. gov. stitt: i don't think there was any way it was at the president's rally. it was too long ago for it to be dormant, based on the science. >> that is too long ago. it was not that. we based our contact tracing 48 hours prior to him developing any symptoms. and prior to that, as far as where he became infected is really unknown. it could be at any time within the last couple of weeks, but it wasn't so far back as when the rally was. >> they just asked my question, thank you. >> koco, do you have anything? >> you had a meeting yesterday in the morning. i guess you tested positive after that. are the folks who were at that meeting going to have t

former republican presidentialch after he attended a trump rally in tulsa. the u.s. craters, a key indicator plunging by nearly 33%, the steepest quarterly dive on record. and that $600 federal boost is about to run out with no relief deal in sight. on the heels of that dire economic report and sinking poll numbers, president trump tonight floating the idea of delaying the presidential election. members of his own party saying not so fast. breaking news: a possible hurricane could target florida this weekend, and the east coast early next week. the new projected track just in. and finally, the remarkable love story of john and lillian lewis. >> this is the "cbs evening news" with norah o'donnell, reporting tonight from atlanta. >> o'donnell: good evening and thank you for joining us on this historic night here in atlanta, the longtime home of civil rights icon john lewis. we're standing in front of the ebenezer baptist church where today former presidents, the speaker of the house, and friends and family all came together to say good bye. the senior pastor here calle

just before that rally in tulsa, oklahoma, the news broke publically that six staff at the tulsa rally just tested positive for coronavirus. and trm donald trumj. trump, whs then on air force one, was reportedly infuriated by that news becoming public. and then suddenly, the testing at tulsa of the staff in oklahoma was stopped and we can now patiently await the news of how many secret service or other staff were infected on today's campaign trip to florida by mike pence. florida is a must-win state for the trump/pence campaign. the latest polls show joe biden with a lead in florida. joe biden also has a lead in arizona. which explains mike pence's trip to arizona. taxpayers are paying for this trip and the trip to florida today because it was disguised like the arizona trip as mike pence checking on what a great job the trumpian governor is doing in the battle against the coronavirus. today, florida once again set a record for the number of coronavirus cases reported in a single day, as the coronavirus continues to surge in the united states. joe biden is maintaining a doub double-dig

that's what it's all about. >> you just referenced tulsa. you know, one thing that i keep kind of sort of regrounding me and sort of centering my sanity a little bit amidst this insane time is that there is some gravity that exists. people did not come out to that tulsa thing, because they had rational fear that it was not a good idea to be inside an arena in the midst of a once in a censure pandemic. you have the rnc saying we're going to push this outdoors. there's a certain immovable object nature to the virus, to the reality to it, and the gravity of it that seems to me to keep regrounding the politics of the absurd that is donald trump. >> yeah, this is what you learn from these videos. you know, a lot of these folks have changed their mind in the last three months, because finally between the virus and between these protests in their communities, something happened that affected them. you know, they thought that trump was going to be a businessman and a deal maker, but they see him just totally unprepared, unable, unwilling to even try

tulsa public school district is really urging students to wear them as well. superintendent debra jiss joins me now. thanks for the time. >> good morning, poppy. >> are you facing the same, the same pushback? you said, look, we're going to have masks in our schools and i wonder every parent and student is on board with that. >> you know, i don't think any of us want to wear masks. they are not comfortable. >> right. >> but -- but we understand why it matters, and what we're hearing from our parents and our teachers is they want us to make good choices about keeping children and team members safe, and safety is our top priority as well, so i feel confident that we're going to have general agreement about this while, of course, we know that we'll have some folks who will not -- will not be comfortable with it. >> so as of now, at least, august 31st, that's the start or open date for schools, and i just wonder what your plan is right now meaning are parents going to have a choice to physically have their children in school or do online learning? >> we do have a v

on monday, tulsa county reported a record 261 new cases. dr. bruce dart, the tulsa health department director, linked the rise in cases to recent large events in tulsa. >> the past two days we have had almost 500 cases and we knew we had several large events a little over to ask ago, which is about right. i guess we can just connect the dots. who attendedain, the tulsa rally, has tested positive for covid-19. president trump is planning to hold another large campaign this week and in portrtsmouth, new hampshire, but many top republicans in the statate do notot plan to attend. inin texas, hohouston mayor sylvester tuerer has forced the texas s republican party t to cl its upcoming in-person state conventionon next week citing healthth concerns.s. 6000 people were expected to attend. meanwhile, in florida, a lawsuit has been filed in an attempt to block jacksonville from hosting the republican national convention next month due to the pandemic. health and humuman services secretetary alex azar isis facig crcriticism after claiaiming tht healthcar

cain, who was co-chair of black voices for trump, attended the president's rally last month in tulsa,ar if he was infected there. he have more now from cbs' nancy was infected there. we h cordes. >> it's called the 9-9-9 plan. >> reporter: businessman turned politician herman cain survived stage four colon cancer, only to succumb to coronavirus after all an avid trump supporter, he attended the president's tulsa rally in june, and like most of e tested positive for covidask. nine days he tested positive fo covid nine days later. cain was known for his catch phrases. >> shucky ducky kind of crowd. >> reporter: and for his exuberance. he was c.e.o. of godfather's pizza and chaired the federal reserve bank of kansas city. >> 9-9-9. >> reporter: when he entered politics he became the g.o.p. presidential front-runner in 2012 before sexual harassment allegations ended his campaign. >> obviously, a man of great energy. >> reporter: the eventual nominee, mitt romney, paid tribute to cain today. >> when he reaches st. peter's gate i expect the first words to come out of his mouth will be 9-9-9

think also physically it's hard for the campaign right now because they did see what happened after tulsand they followed when he went to phoenix a couple of days later. i mean, there were several members o his own advance team who tested positive for covid and now you have herman cain, testing positive. and there are no campaign rallies on the schedule. i think it's interesting to see when they'll have another one. robert: we have to wrap up our conversation right here. yocan start enjoying the holiday weekend. thank you very much to our reporters, weijia jiang, white news, ayesha rascohite house reporter for national public radio, peter baker and jonathan swan. on the extra, author kate andersen brower wil take her into her new book, "team of five: the president's club in the age of trump," catch it on rour social media o website. we work you only the best as our nation marks indepennce day. stay safe in the pursuit of happiness. i'm robert costa. good night fro washington. national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org.] annou

the oklahoma the governor tests positive weeks after attending that trump rally in tulsa. then you hate to see it. jeffrey sessions the third driven out of public life once and probably for all by the man he helped put in the white house. democratic leadership with just weeks until benefits end, what's the plan to protect millions of workers out of work in the pandemic? the speaker of the house nancy pelosi joins me live when "all in" starts right now. >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. when asked today to tell the truth about the federal response to the pandemic, dr. anthony fauci said this. >> we've got to almost reset this and say, okay, let's stop this nonsense and figure out how can we get our control over this now? >> reset. reboot. let's stop this nonsense. the nonsense, of course, although it's always hard to know, is the constant attacks by the people he works for as he tries to do his job. but here's the problem. the nonsense is the point. that is what the trump administration has. nonsense is the goal. nonsense is the approach. nonsense is not an ac

knowing that herman cain went to that tulsa rally, okay, the tulsa rally that the medical experts in tulsa did not want the president to hold because they knew it would be dangerous. he went as a healthy, 74-year-old man. he was not sick, he was not positive for coronavirus that day. then a month later, he is dead. is there any feeling inside the white house of responsibility, of guilt, of connection to this? >> reporter: this is not how the white house is is handling it. in fact, you've seen the president say a few days ago that he's known several friends who passed away from covid and one was close to the end. i have to assume he was talking about herman cain. the white house continues to have a blinder view of all of this. they do not look at actions they have taken as having an impact on people getting sick, whether that's the tulsa rally or a lack of sufficient testing across the country, whether it is the lack of a national plan to combat this. this incident with herman cain, which is obviously tragic, is no different. >> i want to ask about one more thing because there are sta

another saying we cannot have a repeat of tulsa. there's broad recognition that that was a big embarrassment for the president on his big return to the campaign trail after being off the trail for more than three months. they're not only looking at changing the way he holds his rallies, but also the convention in jacksonville, kristen. >> going to be a lot of focus on how specifically that convention is going to unfold. carol, great reporting there. i want to follow up with you. the president isn't just focused on the virus while he was in florida. instead, some of the headlines we're getting is the fact he's criticizing his own experts. walk us through that and what's the strategy, carol? >> reporter: these tensions particularly with dr. fauci have been brewing behind the scenes for some time. the president, however, spilling them out into public, if you look at some of his recent remarks. i think we have some of that if you want to take a listen. >> first of all, the mortality rate -- dr. fauci is a nice man, but he's made a lot o

>> the city of tulsa is mourning this morning. johnson is a 15-year veteran of the tulsa police department and on monday, he and another officer pulled over a suspect in the early morning hours. there was a scuffle and according to the police chief, the suspect pulled out a gun and fired multiple times. and johnson was hit several times, including in his head. we're told he had surge, but his condition never improved and he died on tuesday. the other officer, aresh, who just started working patrols, was also shot in the head, but his condition is apparently improving. and he is responsive to doctors. now, police caught up with the suspect after he fled the scene, 32-year-old david ware now charged with murder and an alleged accomplice also charged. and according to a cnn affiliate about johnson, he's a dad to two little boys, a husband. the tulsa police chief has awarded him with the department's purple heart. but this reminds us of the sacrifice and risk that officers are still taking even in this volatile climate. >> brynn, than

his saturday night rally in tulsa, oka oklahoma, drawing a h smaller than expected crowd.oasted a million people requested tickets and he promised to fill the 19,000 seat arena. but the tulsa fire marshall tells nbc news that 6,200 people showed up, leave rows of empty seats. >> outside the v.o.c. center, these workers took down the overflow stage early. the president had planned to address the crowd there, but no crowd materialized. >> trevor: oh, poor trump. for somebody who was born into wealth and never suffered a single consequence for his actions, this dude can't catch a break because nothing is more you mill yaight when you throw a party and most guests don't show up. i remember when that happened on my twelfth birthday. really? all your grandmas died on the same weekend? ( crying ) i find that very unlikely! so why was turnout for trump's rally so low? well, the trump administration claims it's because protesters blocked the entrance, which,reich most things the trump campaign says, is not true. the most likely explanation for all those empty seats in that arena is

it was the president filling stadiums in tulsa. it was the president -- so, there is a cause and effect there, which he refuses to own. i don't expect him to, either. but even insofar as he may lop it off on the states, he has yet to say, florida opened too early. texas opened too early. arizona opened too early. >> look, john, i think, again, i think it is important to note that he has made some changes this week that are clearly in terms of public health perspectives. positive about masks, about cancel an event that was potentially a super spreader event. those are good things. but it doesn't memory hole everything else he did, including as recently as this sunday when he was complaining about democratic governors that wouldn't let him hold rallies in an interview on fox news. that wasn't weeks ago, that was a few days ago? the president, as you know, seems to also be trying to strategically pivot to talking not about the coronavirus, despite the briefings, but about law and order and about how cities are in trouble, and about ho

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it happened with the rally in tulsa. and the expectations were so high, and then -- >> yeah, i think the concern about the crowd size is going to be something. it's been something that followed campaign officials. it really is going to be after the fall out from what happened in tulsa. and i think that played a factor. i'm sure they knew if it was bad weather it won't encourage people to kevin mcaleencome out. it doomed the campaign trail. and what a struggle it's been. they tried alabama tomorrow and state officials were worried about a mass gathering. and new hampshire and of course now a tropical storm headed for the east coast. it has been a struggle for him to get on the campaign trail. >> i want to turn now to roger stone. he was days away from reporting to prison. president trump commuted his sentence. this is part of the pattern this white house has the moves like this late on a friday night. we have sat here and covered stories. we call it the friday night news dump. highly controversial decision to protect or p

he didn't have a good turnout in tulsa here, but heck, we're four months from election.he going to sort of bulldoze forward with the trump-style rally plan as he tries to win re-election? >> that is not -- he might eventually, but that's not the plan for the month of july. campaign advisers met and said what was described to me as a pretty aggressive schedule, at least for his white house duties. but as we know in a re-election year in particular, they blend into one. that does not call for large-scale rallies, indoor rallies like what we saw in tulsa and what have been these trump rallies. there might be some in smaller settings, partially outdoor settings at some point this month. but officials are very, very scalded by what happened in tulsa and the fallout. >> notable, notable there. maybe a little scared about their jobs. maggie haberman, david axelrod, so good to have both of you. thanks so much. >> good to see you, jim. thank you. >>> just ahead, more on what we touched on at the top of the hour. why europe is beating the virus, and it is, and the u.s. is not. and

this was president trump's campaign rally in tulsa, oklahoma, on june 20th. we remember that rally experts warned trump against holding. you can see cain smiling with no mask, the caption just a few now having a fantastic time. 11 days after that picture, cain was in the hospital. he also fired off a tweet about the rally in south dakota, remember that one. his tweet, masks will not be mandatory for the event which will be attended by president trump. people are fed up. celebrating no action manies. it's important to know we do not know where herman cain contracted the virus. but 11 days after contracting it is when many people who become ill from it seek urgent hospital care. regardless, neither cain or anyone else should have been at the rally because there was no social distancing and almost no masks. president trump can be very kwensing. he wanted that rally. he wanted it bad. >> we're going to be starting our rallies. the first one, we believe, will be probably we're just starting to call up, will be in oklahoma. in tulsa, oklahoma. beautiful new venue,

what was lost when black people were violently forced out of tulsa.hem sadly were killed. what did you find out about that? >> we had this mythical image of a place where black people can live to ourselves and have money and resources. well, black wall street in tulsa was kinds of that. there was a black upper class and middle class. black people owned businesses. so black people were able to do for themselves and take care of themselves but the white people of tulsa did not like that and destroyed the town. that area of town. >> an historic low point. w. kamau bell. an all new episode of united shades of america. that's coming up. you'll want to see it. also coming up, a tribute to a civil rights icon and a tremendous leader. congressman john lewis, right after a quick break. to return to the workplace, safely, companies will need the right tools. that's why salesforce created work.com it's an all-new suite of apps, expertise, and services. to manage this crisis today, and thrive tomorrow. everything companies need to return to the workplace. let's r

that does not call for large-scale rallies, indoor rallies like we saw in tulsa. there might be some in smaller settings, partially outdoor settings, at some point this month. but officials are very, very scalded by what happened in tulsa. >> notable. notable there. maybe a little scared about their jobs. maggie haberman, david axelrod, good to have both of you. thanks so much. >> just ahead, more at what we touched on at the top of the hour. why europe is beating the virus, and it is, and the u.s. is not. and the one chart that explains why the eu is banning american travellers, now. >>> earlier today, joe biden slammed president trump for his handling of the pandemic. and as evidence, he cited the eu ban against travelers from the u.s. it's no question why the eu would place such a ban on americans. just look at this chart we showed you at the top of the program. the u.s. and the eu, they followed a very similar trajectory until march. when the number of new cases in the eu, they came down. the u.s., going in the opposite direction. way up, sharply. more than 47

. >> are you worried he caught covid-19 in tulsa? >> no, i don't think he did.

it was actually the tulsa mayor who said, in tulsa, if you're murdered, we do everything we can to findhappened and bring justice for your family. it should not have taken us 99 years to get to this point in the investigation. it's just incredible that it's taken this long to find a mass grave where so many families were told, you're not going to have a funeral. they wouldn't even acknowledge the deaths when they happened 99 years ago. >> it's definitely a remarkable moment, milestone moment in history. and i think what really stands out about this moment, too, is a lot of people didn't know before even this year that this happened. and so hopefully going forward, we'll start seeing it in history books as well. >> definitely. >>> well, discomforting earthquake news for california residents. the chance the state will be hit by the big one have gone up. scientists say two quakes in a scientists say two quakes in a desert about 100 miles north of los angeles last summer raised the odds of a major break along the san andreas fault. it's estimated a powerful quake along that fault could lead

after tulsa, they tried to go to alabama tomorrow. and state officials there were worried about having a mass gathering. and then, new hampshire. and of course, now, there is a tropical storm headed for the east coast. it has really been a struggle for him to get back on the campaign trail. >> kaitlan, i want to turn now to roger stone because roger stone was days away from reporting to prison. but president trump commuted his sentence. this is part of a pattern that this white house has. moves like this that, late on a friday night, they do. many friday nights, we have sat here and covered stories. we call it the friday night news dump. highly controversial decisions to, either, protect or to persecute people who have been involved with this presidency. >> yeah. and we've seen him use this power before, to pardon allies of his. people that are prominent republicans. things of that nature. roger stone is probably the closest that it gets to donald trump, so far, though. i mean, he was a member of his campaign for a brief period of tim